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Still trying to settle a claim. Worst experience of my life, cannot even get an estimate of damage costs, complete run around. Have been a client for 25 years. Never had a claim. If you are thinking about getting house insurance, this is not the company to deal with. Run away from this group as fast as you can
The first thing to know is that the moment you have a large claim you cease having any friends in your insurance circle. The Agent, Adjuster, the company's preferred construction Contractor and preferred Restoration firm are aligned against you. The Adjuster knows you don't have a list of all of your belongings and before you can develop one they will have their preferred restoration company remove your belongings. The Adjuster wants not only to minimize your claim but to minimize the cost of dealing with your assets. To this end, they will pressure you to accept 85% of the value of the assets on their list of assets rather than repairing or replacing them. If you refuse you can expect no communications whatsoever from their preferred suppliers. Their communications are poor by design - they like to keep things verbal and if you try to use email for the sake of having a record of what they've said you'll find that the Adjuster doesn't receive your email or don't have the software needed to open .pdf attachments - even though they can send them to you. You might find that they also use multiple email addresses. In the beginning, the Adjuster will make up limitations and constraints relating to your claim that aren't mentioned anywhere in your policy and are not supported by existing insurance case-law. If you insist they provide a proper explanation they will accuse you of impropriety and threaten to reject your claim. If you continue to refuse to back down they will begin ignoring you. Ultimately all of these actions are intended to cause the claimant to throw their hands up and accept less than they're entitled to. These people are subject to a Code of Ethics - but they certainly don't adhere to it. You can deal with them for 20-30-40 years without ever making a claim - only to find that the honourable people you thought were dealing with have never felt the same about you.
We've been paying premiums for decades but had never made an insurance claim until last year when we had a fire that seriously damaged our home. At that point CNS sent their team of preferred suppliers in to assist us. We found ourselves facing off against brokers, adjusters, contractors and suppliers who directly represent CNS interests. We have no one to represent our interests other than ourselves - but we've got no expertise in dealing with insurance or construction issues. How would we know whether the two reconstruction quotes their adjuster had two of their reconstruction contractors come up with is adequate or appropriate? One of their contractors came in and removed our belongings when we weren't there and didn't provide a receipt for the things taken. Our claims for additional living costs were arbitrarily rejected and we have a lawyer who will be pursuing them on that. More than anything we've found them to be bullies who use delays as a means of pressuring and punishing policy holders who don't agree with them. They've consistently shied away from any kind of dialogue that would explain their position. It's not just CNS - their broker, Sea-first, has been no use to us whatsoever and their adjuster, Lindsey, is one of the most obnoxious and offensive people we've ever met. They've gone out of their way to cause us anguish and uncertainty - you have to wonder how they can stay in business.
CNS has been my insurer for over 20 years. I have had 2 claims in that period and both were handled exceptionally well. The last claim involved a flood in my home leaving it inhabitable until restoration could be completed. CNS had me set up with temporary lodging within 2 hours of calling them and filing a claim. I have found their rates to be reasonable, however, since I have been with them for so long, that does help reduce my premium costs
Six months into my policy, CNS has decided that my house is 'worth more' and want to change my premiums. They have super inflated the value of my house by over $200,000 and I could never sell it for what they 'say' is the replacement value, let alone afford the exorbitant premiums. They also make me pay for 'furs and jewellry' in their household contents section and have given me no choice to delete that since I have none of the above. So they are charging me insurance for contents I don't own and say that is the way the package is. Very poor service and unprofessional---that was my experience.
We had a fire in our home. Not a complete write off mind you but significant smoke and water damage. The company who came to take everything away and make it better, wrote everything off except the kitchen pots and pans, plates and cups. In their haste they left out pieces of furniture on their lists of write offs and failed to include specific details about what they were writing off. ie. " ziploc bag of maps", or X number of books, X number of DVDs. So there was no record of what we actually lost. Then the insurance company takes this incomeplete and vague list of write offs and sends the list to another company who uses a random write down / depreciation formula to further reduce the insurance companies liability in the replacement costs. The formulas were very random and did not allow for the fact that in Canada a swim suit or pair of shorts might only get worn once or twice a year and sometimes not even. But the formula says the life of that garment is 3 years. Anything over 3 years old has no value, according to this company who specializes in assessing values for the insuarnce company.
So first the write down company has incomplete lists and descriptions from the clean up company and secondly their criteria for a write down is completely random and irrelevant to the average home owner. Yes companies do write down assets and depreciate items for valuation purposes but families wear and use things until they wear out, at which time they become painting or work clothes. They still have use and value. Not so with this insuarnce companies process. They write down the home owners write offs to reduce their liability, leaving the home owner to bear the loss. It has been over 60 days since our fire and all we have seen is write off lists and now this multipage " assessment list" where they want us to tell them how old the items on our write off list is. Do you remember when you bought that striped wool neck scarf that you still wear once in a while when it really blows? Of course not.... we can't remember when we bought all our clothes. The insurance company saves money by using bad information calculated with bad formulas and decision criteria. They call this customer service? I don't think so.
Premium went from 83$/month to 109$/month REASON we no longer insured our boat with them
Had a jewellery loss claim that was covered by a rider. Found out 2 things. The company had nicely stated they would adjust the insured value yearly (based on market conditions we assumed) so that we would not need to provide yearly appraisals. Thought this was good as we believed an insurance company would have intimate knowledge of the market fluctuations. Turned out this is not true as they claim they have no idea of the market. They increased the insured value of the item every year and hence the premium, from some $7,000 insured value to over $20,000 over those years. When it was lost, all they would cough up was $2,500. When questioned they stated they were not gemologists and had no idea of market conditions. Next was the fact that they stated if we decided to go ahead with the claim, they would not renew our policy. This was due to a previous claim some 2 years prior for a break in, which after the deductible, cost them roughly $2,000. They would not budge from that position even when I stated we had mitigated the loss because of a monitored alarm system which had the police responding in less than 5 minutes. The attitude was that they could care less. Going ahead with the jewellery claim would have seen us blackballed due to 2 claims in less than 3 years. We had no choice but to withdraw the claim and cover the loss ourselves. Given their attitude with regards to a long and previously loyal customer, we insured with another company. I will also be pulling our commercial policy from CNS's parent RSA. A move that will cost them over $9,000 a year in combined billed premiums. The kicker to the above was that even after the multiple emails with CNS regarding the jewellery claim and premium issue, they still sent us a renewal form further increasing the insured value of the lost item by another 7%.
Appears obvious to me that internal communication is completely lacking and that the bottom line report to head office is all that matters.
My representative was very knowledgeable and helpful in assisting my needs. I do find that it has proven to be a bit more expensive than I anticipated this year.
The deductible on the policy is $1000, but a new addendum has been created that states that in the case of water damage, it is $2000. This was never communicated to us, just sneakily imposed. Stay away from this insurance company. There are several that are much better.